Chapter 451

Chapter 451

Can a strategist not ascend the throne? Extra Extra Five (1)

Book: Can a strategist not ascend the throne?

Chapter 451 Extra Five (1)

[History Section] [Hot] [Received a Victory Coin from Stale Fish yesterday, can anyone help take a look?]

Content as per title.

Yesterday, I opened Stale Fish and saw a “Victory Coin replica” being sold at a low price. Based on my research into Da Yong history, it doesn’t seem like a modern replica.

The coin is already in hand, can anyone help take a look?

[1st Floor] Cola Without Ice

Is this Stale Fish the one I’m thinking of?

[2nd Floor] First in Line for Gossip

Is this Victory Coin the one I’m thinking of?

[3rd Floor] Governor of Bingzhou

Friend, are you kidding?

Victory Coins were only popular during the reign of Emperor Taizu of Da Yong. If it’s genuine, it’s a two-thousand-year-old antique. There weren’t many to begin with, and many collectors are willing to pay high prices for missing ones. How could you possibly find a genuine one on Stale Fish!!

[4th Floor] Cute Without Brains

Agree with the above.

[5th Floor] Shining Bright

Because Emperor Taizong said that Emperor Taizu was the one who laid the foundation for Da Yong, and he used Victory Coins to bestow blessings on his subordinates. She could do it, but she couldn’t. So, it was changed to giving New Year bonuses.

If you study Da Yong history, you should know this.

From the first Victory Coin issued in 6 BC to the one issued in 52 AD by Emperor Taizu, plus a peace buckle and a farewell gift before abdication, there are only 60 in total. There really aren’t many!

[6th Floor] OP

I know, I even suspect that Emperor Yong Taizong didn’t want to think about so many patterns, so he said, “Friends, I don’t want to issue any more,” and then made an excuse, “My mother is the most qualified to issue this.”

[7th Floor] Where’s My Ball

Hahahahaha if I were Emperor Yong Taizong, I wouldn’t issue this either.

Dealing with government affairs is already annoying enough, and now I have to think about the patterns for Victory Coins.

[8th Floor] Ah Heng is Truly Stunning

Emperor Taizong: My mother used up all the auspicious patterns for Victory Coins, what should I use?

[9th Floor] Cola Without Ice

During Emperor Taizu’s reign, they could still do combinations, like panda and elephant, panda and bamboo, bamboo and crane, elephant and fireworks. What’s left for Emperor Taizong’s reign?

[10th Floor] Shining Bright

LOL, I remember in Wang Can’s notes, it was said that when Emperor Taizu first paired pandas and elephants, many people speculated on what it meant. But when all 60 were put together, the most reasonable guess was to reduce repetition probability.

[11th Floor] Want to Stick Close to Emperor Qiao Today

Maybe she just thought pandas riding elephants were cute?

[12th Floor] She Yu

We’re off-topic, isn’t the main point the OP’s content?

[13th Floor] Governor of Bingzhou

Right, OP, you know there are very few Victory Coins, and only a few were given out before the ascension. Later, they were only given to officials above 600 dan. Many have been lost or damaged over two thousand years, why are you still asking this?

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[17th Floor] OP

Because—

[Picture] [Picture] [Picture] [Picture]

Pictures 1 and 2 are photos of the Victory Coin I received. (Original camera)

Picture 3 is a photo of the coin mold and extra coins from the Da Yong History Museum.

Picture 4 is a photo of the corresponding coin previously posted online by a collector.

I’ve carefully compared them, and after receiving the coin, I examined it carefully and found no differences.

But the price I paid was really low…

[18th Floor] A Passerby

It’s a miracle you could buy it.

[19th Floor] Cola Without Ice

Do you believe this Victory Coin is real, or do you believe I’m the reincarnation of Emperor Taizu?

[20th Floor] Then Dig Wang Can’s Tomb

I believe the above.

[21st Floor] Dream of Holding the Sun

I believe the above.

[22nd Floor] Want to Stick Close to Emperor Qiao Today

Be serious, this pattern…

[23rd Floor] She Yu

Wait, wait, Chang’an City and Qinling Mountains!

This is the Victory Coin from the first year of Jian’an!

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[28th Floor] OP

Yes, the one from the first year of Jian’an.

I remember this vividly because twenty years ago, a tomb of Prince Hongnong was unearthed, and a similar coin was among the burial items, now displayed in a museum.

According to the Book of Later Han, when Emperor Kang of Han ascended the throne, which was the first year of Jian’an, Emperor Taizu sent a Victory Coin to the court in Ye City to show they were not legitimate. A copy of the Leping Monthly Report was also sent.

After Prince Hongnong was executed, this New Year’s gift was also buried with him.

During Emperor Kang’s reign, Emperor Taizu, as Grand Marshal, held military and political power. In most historical analyses, this year is also considered the first year of Emperor Taizu’s reign. The symbol of Chang’an City and Qinling Mountains is very significant, so this Victory Coin has high value.

[29th Floor] Shining Bright

Yes, those who can’t collect the full set usually only collect this one, the one from the fifth year of Jian’an, and the one from Emperor Taizu’s abdication.

A few only collect the peace buckle, as it can be worn.

[30th Floor] She Yu

When a perfectionist’s finances aren’t enough, they just get the beginning and end, LOL.

[31st Floor] Missing One Victory Coin

Your statement is problematic, those who collect single coins aren’t necessarily short on funds!

These four special coins, individually, are worth about one-fifth of the full set.

My family has 59 Victory Coins, missing just this one.

We’ve offered the full set price, but still can’t get it!!!

[32nd Floor] Missing One Victory Coin

I’m really crying, my family tasked me with finding this one, but I can’t rob a museum, this coin is simply unavailable!!!

Those who have it usually don’t sell it!!

[33rd Floor] Dream of Holding the Sun

This ID looks familiar, seen it in recent Da Yong posts.

[34th Floor] Want to Stick Close to Emperor Qiao Today

If that’s the case, I really don’t believe OP’s is real.

[35th Floor] Cola Without Ice

OP, what did the seller say?

[36th Floor] OP

My reason tells me I can’t get it.

But my brain tells me it’s likely real, otherwise I wouldn’t have posted it.

Here’s the censored chat log with the seller.

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[40th Floor] OP

To prevent image deletion, here’s a text version.

Basically, the seller told me her family has a full set of ancestral Victory Coins.

But while cleaning, she found a small bag in the box containing a single Victory Coin.

She thought it might be a new undiscovered pattern, which would make her rich, but upon opening it, she found it was identical to one in the box.

She asked her family but got no answers, only that an ancestor might have mistakenly collected a fake, later got the real one, and kept the fake aside.

Since the aging process was well done, it looks very similar to the real one, so she sold it to avoid confusion.

[41st Floor] Dream of Holding the Sun

This explanation makes sense.

Unless under special circumstances, there’s no need to collect two Victory Coins from the first year of Jian’an.

[42nd Floor] Missing One Victory Coin

OP, have you measured the coin’s size?

The patina looks real.

[43rd Floor] OP

Yes, it’s the same size as a normal Victory Coin, probably not a mold from a real one.

Also, after talking with the seller, their full set box was wax-sealed, stored underground for a while, so the coin only has a bit of earth smell, no artificial aging smell.

[44th Floor] No Hot Pot

I’m an art student, I can say OP’s coin and the example pictures really have no difference. (But I’m a history noob, don’t trust me)

[45th Floor] Then Dig Wang Can’s Tomb

Maybe… get it appraised?

[46th Floor] Ah Heng is Truly Stunning

Asking netizens, everyone will just say it’s fake.

Earlier, your chat interface censored the seller but not the price.

If you want us to believe you bought something worth millions for three thousand, we’d be jealous (serious face)

[47th Floor] She Yu

I can’t even afford a full set of commemorative items (I mean the National Museum edition)

[48th Floor] Farewell My Concubine

Dazed








惚惚楼上你也太真实了。

【49楼】Today also want to stick with Emperor Qiao.

楼主啊，其实我觉得你如果是用三千，买到了一个这么像真品的纪念品其实也不算太亏。

【50楼】

楼主你还是拿去鉴定一下。

我不是主攻古钱币的，但是刚才我拿图给同事看了一下，说光从图上看，是真的可能性很大。

（如果楼主没有修图的话）

【51楼】Cute but no brain？？？？

【52楼】Governor of Bingzhou

真嘟假嘟O-O？

【53楼】

认真说的。

【54楼】不吃鸳鸯锅

等一下，我记得楼上那个姐姐！刚参与了延安考古挖掘的！她说是真的话，楼主你还是别节省这点鉴定费，去专业机构线下看看吧。

【55楼】一个路人

完了，本区不会在见证了史料挖掘、贾诩洗白之后又要见证楼主捡漏成功一夜暴富吧？？？

【56楼】有瓜我在第一线

火前留名，前排挤挤。

【57楼】阔乐不加冰

最近是怎么了，有关大雍的帖子自带爆贴体质啊？

【58楼】阿恒真绝色

但是前面两个热帖的楼主都坐上飞机了。

你不要诅咒这个楼主。

【59楼】口口

笑死了，那两个一个是去中亚遗迹挖掘，一个是去延安围观，又不是坏事。

什么叫诅咒啊！

【60楼】那就挖王粲的墓

楼主呢楼主呢，你要不要考虑真的去鉴定一下？

【61楼】压胜钱缺一枚

如果是真的话，我要哭了。

【62楼】仲宣楼上坐

没事，楼上你继续挂着这个ID，全论坛的强迫症都要哭了。

【63楼】今天也想跟乔皇贴贴

恍恍惚惚楼上你多损啊！！

……

【70楼】楼主

你们楼刷得也太快了。

我刚找了本地的鉴定机构线上检测，说是确实像真的。

所以我准备去线下走一趟。

大家明天来看吧，我预约的明天中午，打工人没有别的时间。

再晚就要到周末了，怕你们等急了我还是提早一天吧。

【71楼】你大姐还是你大姐

头一次见到这么听劝的楼主。

【72楼】捧日之梦

很好，你不吊我们网友的胃口，跟你混了。

【73楼】楼主

因为我也很急。

【74楼】可可爱爱没有脑袋

哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈楼主你不要这么坦诚好吗

【75楼】阿恒真绝色

能不急吗，古代工艺仿品，最多也就是三五千的价格，只能说没亏或者亏得不多，但是如果真的是建安元年的那一枚……

【76楼】口口

楼主今天就能请全楼吃席。

【77楼】舍予

还能给每人送一套工艺品压胜钱。

【78楼】捧日之梦

还能在卖给楼上某位之后把全体网友的强迫症治好。

【79楼】楼主

如果是真的话应该是不考虑出售的。

太.祖陛下是我最崇拜的帝王，建安元年是她当上大司马的一年，太有纪念价值了。（对手指）

【80楼】琰琰其光

懂你懂你。

要是我捡漏到我也不卖，直接当传家宝传下去。

【81楼】你大姐还是你大姐

后世考古的时候都说，陛下在位期间明明天灾也偶有发生，甚至因为当时的战乱很容易出现疫症的传播，结果大雍境内整体局势一直平稳，最离奇的就是数次海航都没有出现全队翻船的情况，放在当时的海航条件下简直就是个奇迹。

很难不怀疑压胜钱真的有好运保平安的作用。

留一枚在家里镇宅心里踏实。（我家就是）

【82楼】压胜钱缺一枚

我哭给你们看哦！

【83楼】楼主

给楼上递纸巾（捂住我的压胜钱）

都散了都散了，明天来吧。

……

【104楼】有瓜我在第一线

楼主楼主，“明天”到了，你怎么样了？

【105楼】美洲大蠊

当代网友的急切吃瓜心态，在0点0分问楼主鉴定结果哈哈哈哈哈哈

【106楼】阎王夸我好身体

不是！我刚看到顶帖才点进这个帖子的。

然后你们就这么让我睡不着了？？？？？？

【107楼】四川方言怎么你了

104楼你用心险恶啊！！！！！

……

【150楼】楼主

好家伙我就大半天没看你们又刷出了这么多。

别催了别催了我已经到了鉴定机构了。

因为有预约，大概十分钟就能轮到了。

【151楼】那就挖王粲的墓

友情提示，这里只是个帖子，看到这里的人是可以呼吸的。

【152楼】可可爱爱没有脑袋

谢谢楼上，差点闭气闭过去。

【153楼】阿恒真绝色

明明不是我的东西我在这里这么紧张干什么。

【154楼】一口一个

大概是因为，太.祖陛下的经历太传奇了，我有一种奇怪的预感，这枚压胜钱如果是真的，可能也很传奇的样子。

……

【170楼】捧日之梦

不是，半小时了，楼主你人呢！

……

【190楼】楼主

抱歉，刚刚去接了个电话，现在回来了。

有两个消息要告诉大家。

（先别刷屏，让我一口气说完）

【191楼】楼主

一个消息是，鉴定结果出来了，钱币是真的。

另外一个消息是，咸鱼的卖家找到我了，说她可能把真的钱币当成假的来卖了。

【192楼】并州刺史？？？？？她不会看到这个帖子了吧！

【193楼】舍予

卖都卖了，走的合法交易，楼主也没欺骗她，就算她说卖错了也要不回去的。

【194楼】口口

不会要说什么未成年人买卖梗吧？？？？

【195楼】你大姐还是你大姐

但是，按理来说，能有全套压胜钱的家里不会缺这点钱的。

【196楼】有瓜我在第一线

那万一只有这一枚是真的，全套是假的呢？

【197楼】楼主

我不是要说这个，我是说，楼上有个人说这枚钱币很传奇，真的没说错。

这个卖家告诉我，她在整理祖上遗留的时候发现了一本记录册，在上面写了这套压胜钱的来历。

说，她们祖上是一位重要人物的守墓人，这套压胜钱作为陪葬品被偷偷拿了出来，希望当做信物传下去。

这个被埋葬在这里的人，叫做吕令雎。

【198楼】你大姐还是你大姐？？？？？？

【199楼】舍予？？？？？？

【200楼】阔乐不加冰

我惊了，这什么情况？

【201楼】可可爱爱没有脑袋

我的天！

【202楼】口口

等等，吕将军是没有葬在吕家祖坟的吗？

【203楼】压胜钱缺一枚

还真的没有……她跟太.祖陛下四方行游的时候在藏原上过世的。

她说想为太.祖永守边陲，所以就地安葬的。

【204楼】压胜钱缺一枚

你问我为什么知道这个？

因为我姓吕。

作者有话说：

历史的意外，真的很有意思。

上一章是贾诩的意外，这一章是吕令雎的意外了。

居然有人猜到了。

【压胜钱缺一枚】的id之前的论坛体就有了，然后之前说的出土的也只有早年间的学习笔记。

晚上九点见。

啊啊啊啊啊我服了这是番外啊，还是爽文的番外，不要乱猜小吕的墓被盗啊，等晚上成不成。