Chapter 450
Can a strategist not ascend the throne? Extra Extra Four (End)
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Can a Strategist Not Ascend the Throne?
Chapter 450 Extra Four (End)
[113th Floor] Governor of Bingzhou
Really? Fake? O-O?
[114th Floor] Today I also want to stick with Emperor Qiao
Someone, give the 112th floor a history book!
[115th Floor] The Glow of Yanyan
Wait, wait, let me flip through it, it’s right by the bed.
If I remember correctly, the Yong records say that Jia Xu was kidnapped to Chang’an by Yan Xing to avenge Han Sui, so he briefly served under Dong Zhuo and solved many troubles for him.
Later, because Dong Zhuo couldn’t help him achieve the goal of stabilizing the central region for the Liangzhou people, he chose to side with Li Jue.
Finally, after Li Jue’s defeat, he was also captured.
His Majesty valued Jia Xu’s talent and thus reinstated him, and with his son in hand, he wasn’t worried about him causing any trouble. How did it become that he never advised Dong Zhuo??
[116th Floor] Farewell My Concubine
LOL, the brain of the person upstairs turned 360 degrees, and their hands typed much faster than usual.
[117th Floor] The Glow of Yanyan
Just because Jia Xu did well as the Governor of Qingzhou and even retired peacefully to teach military affairs at Leping Academy, doesn’t mean he never gave advice to Dong Zhuo!
(Typed too fast and missed a sentence)
[118th Floor] Zhaozhao
What a venomous Jia Xu fan, secretly whitewashing his personal history.
[119th Floor] Sheyu
Upstairs, stop flipping, I’ve already found it, [Xu was kidnapped by Yan Xing, sought a livelihood, served Dong Zhuo, and offered him three good strategies.]
[120th Floor] Sheyu
To explain to the history newbie who stumbled into this thread, “offered him three good strategies” doesn’t mean he only gave three pieces of advice, but that he repeatedly offered strategies.
This is not the behavior of someone who was forced to join the enemy, right?
[121st Floor] Governor of Bingzhou
Agree +1
Look at Li Ru, who was also kidnapped to the enemy camp!
Before Dong Zhuo’s death, even though our Emperor Taizu had the potential to repeatedly defeat strong enemies, he didn’t offer a single strategy.
[122nd Floor] Cola Without Ice
His Majesty: I don’t need you to speak, just stay locked up.
[123rd Floor] Long Live Emperor Wu
Hey hey hey, upstairs you’ve derailed the topic.
Needing and having the behavior are completely two different things.
[124th Floor] No Hot Pot
So what suggestions did he make?
[125th Floor] The Glow of Yanyan
Although he performed brilliantly in Xuzhou and Qingzhou later, and was even listed among the meritorious officials in the Xuanyuan Pavilion, but…
Hard to say, hard to say, it’s weird.
[126th Floor] Today I also want to stick with Emperor Qiao
Let me answer the 124th floor.
The first round of suggestions he gave to Dong Zhuo were:
1. Rotate the garrison at various passes to prevent the generals in Guanzhong from contacting Bingzhou and Liangzhou.
2. Use the excuse of the Son of Heaven’s lack of food to purchase grain from Yizhou to stabilize the grain price in Chang’an.
3. Ally with Liu Biao to repel the allied forces of the then Governor of Bingzhou, Emperor Taizu.
The latter two suggestions, according to later scholars’ analysis, should also have included plans for Dong Zhuo to retreat to Yizhou and Jingzhou if the situation turned bad.
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[130th Floor] Cola Without Ice
According to historical records, because of these three strategies, Dong Zhuo particularly admired him and even planned to marry his then widowed daughter to him.
To the point of becoming family, could it be that someone held a knife to his neck to speak?
[131st Floor] Koukou
@Where are you?
Don’t just drop a sentence and run away.
[132nd Floor] Farewell My Concubine
Friend, nominations aren’t made like this, you need to bring historical materials.
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[144th Floor] Ah Heng is Really Gorgeous
Looking up… Now I know why everyone says the combat power of Emperor Taizong’s fans is weak, compared to this one in front of me, it is indeed too weak.
[145th Floor] No Hot Pot
But, if I remember correctly, that sister with the double eyelid name is studying archaeology.
As mentioned above, it’s not a case of the same name. (The forum also doesn’t allow duplicate names)
[146th Floor] Shijiazhuang Zhao Zilong???? No! You’re studying archaeology, shouldn’t you speak more rigorously?
[147th Floor] The Glow of Yanyan
Oh right, studying archaeology, then let’s talk according to historical materials.
The tomb complex of the Jia family from Wuwei was unearthed more than ten years ago, and although Jia Xu’s tomb was not found, his son Jia Mu’s was.
In Jia Mu’s work notes, it is specifically mentioned that His Majesty did not mistreat him because of his father’s defection, but instead gave him the opportunity to repair water conservancy in Liangzhou to atone.
If Jia Xu’s service under Dong Zhuo had hidden circumstances, shouldn’t there be a change of tone in his son’s records?
Otherwise, after the founding of Da Yong, why wasn’t Jia Xu rehabilitated in the next seven hundred years of the dynasty?
[148th Floor] Missing a Commemorative Coin
@Come out come out come out, don’t just drop a bomb and run.
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[170th Floor]
Alright, stop calling, I was just typing.
From Jia Xu’s defection to Dong Zhuo to returning to serve under His Majesty Emperor Taizu, he did the following things—
1. Made sure none of Dong Zhuo’s generals could garrison any pass for more than four months, preventing the formation of a defense strong enough to resist His Majesty’s invasion of Guanzhong.
2. Stabilized the grain price in Chang’an, weakening the impact of Dong Zhuo’s small coin issuance on Guanzhong.
3. Sent Dong Zhuo’s generals towards Jingzhou, weakening the strength of Chang’an’s defenders. Seemingly a successful cooperation, it actually planted hidden dangers.
4. Caused Dong Zhuo and Li Jue to turn against each other. Li Jue chose to cooperate with Wang Yun and others after taking control of Chang’an, which was part of Jia Xu’s plan. This was to return the initiative to the Han officials in Chang’an at that time.
5. Ordered Li Jue’s generals to march a large number of troops through the Wei River Valley into Liangzhou, even withdrawing part of the Maiwu garrison, creating the best opportunity for His Majesty to launch the Guanzhong campaign.
As mentioned in the above floors, Jia Xu’s performance in the battles of Xuzhou and Qingzhou and the governance of Qingzhou was commendable. If he had truly served Dong Zhuo, would he have done these five things that were beneficial to His Majesty?
[171st Floor] Farewell My Concubine
…I’ve read it, I’m a bit confused.
[172nd Floor] Zhaozhao
If that’s the case, then His Majesty’s ability to invade Guanzhong was largely due to Jia Xu.
Even the people of Guanzhong should thank him.
[173rd Floor] Cola Without Ice
Especially the second one… uh, how to say it.
[174th Floor] Where’s My Ball
It sounds like Jia Xu deserves to be enshrined in the Imperial Ancestral Temple.
[175th Floor] Ah Heng is Really Gorgeous
I feel something’s off but can’t put my finger on it.
[176th Floor] Governor of Bingzhou
Wait a minute, wait a minute, I almost got caught up in your reasoning!
What you said makes sense, but without historical evidence, it can’t be used as testimony!
For example, the fifth point, if His Majesty hadn’t discovered the invasion of Liangzhou by Guanzhong troops in time, and the four surnames of Hanyang were slacking off in defense, this wouldn’t have been His Majesty’s opportunity to attack, but rather Li Jue’s chance to destroy His Majesty’s hard-earned achievements in Liangzhou.
Am I wrong?
[177th Floor] Today I also want to stick with Emperor Qiao
With that said, I also remember what’s off.
Jia Xu’s actions could be said to strengthen Guanzhong’s power, regardless of whether it was Dong Zhuo, Li Jue, or His Majesty who took over.
But sending troops to Liangzhou was real.
If His Majesty hadn’t responded quickly enough, and if the heavy crossbows hadn’t already formed a suppressing force, the consequences of these twenty thousand troops entering Liangzhou would have been unimaginable.
You can’t say Jia Xu was His Majesty’s spy just because of the victory conditions that came out of it.
[178th Floor] Today I also want to stick with Emperor Qiao
…Then according to this logic, Yuan Shao repeatedly tried to cause trouble for His Majesty, but instead lost land and people and became a joke himself.
[179th Floor] Shijiazhuang Zhao Zilong
Case solved, Yuan Shao was His Majesty’s spy in the Ye court.
[180th Floor] Governor of Bingzhou
I’m dying of laughter, how did you come to this conclusion so quickly.
[181st Floor] Today I also want to stick with Emperor Qiao
@Actually, you don’t need to whitewash Jia Xu’s past.
Emperor Taizu’s fans separate his actions before and after His Majesty’s ascension.
Jia Wenhe’s political achievements in Qingzhou live up to the name “Wenhe,” at most he gets a couple of mentions of his past crimes.
[182nd Floor]
Then what if we combine this with it?
[Picture][Picture][Picture]
[183rd Floor] First in Line for Melons
I carefully identified it, this seems to be some kind of coursework?
[184th Floor] Ah Heng is Really Gorgeous
No, the last two aren’t.
[185th Floor] First in Line for Melons
Oh, then I think I understand.
The second picture is an official document written by Jia Xu during his tenure as Governor of Qingzhou, a few of which are housed in the Da Yong History Museum.
The third picture is an official document of King Chen Qiao Lan, also preserved in the Da Yong History Museum.
And the first picture is Jia Xu’s guidance assignment for Qiao Lan!
When was this?
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[188th Floor]
It’s written above, at the end of the third year of Guangxi, 5 years before the common era.
That is, before the last Han emperor Liu Yu ascended the throne.
This year, His Majesty Emperor Taizu had just successfully attacked Guanzhong, and because Liu Xie was missing, Jia Xu couldn’t be dealt with and was sent to Shangjun in Bingzhou for detention.
At the same time, Qiao Lan and Qiao Ting, two relatives of the Qiao family from Leping, were removed from the student list of Leping Academy.
[189th Floor] Zhaozhao
I remember that archaeological findings from a few years ago already said that the contributions of these two royal relatives were not just about persuading Zhou Yu to act as bait, otherwise His Majesty wouldn’t have entrusted them with important tasks after ascending the throne.
They were in charge of part of His Majesty’s intelligence organization.
[190th Floor] Sitting on Zhongxuan Tower
It’s a pity that telephones weren’t invented back then, otherwise it wouldn’t have been so troublesome.
[191st Floor] Dream of Holding the Sun
Reply to upstairs: If telephones had been invented, some of His Majesty’s blitzkrieg tactics couldn’t have been used.
[192nd Floor] Sitting on Zhongxuan Tower
That’s also true.
[193rd Floor] One Bite at a Time
(Pulling back, pulling back) So at that time, the Qiao sisters, who were shouldering heavy responsibilities, were learning from Jia Xu???
Is that what I understand, right?
This is definitely not something someone who just defected should have…
The treatment!
[194th Floor] A passerby
…Even if it’s said that His Majesty values talent, it still doesn’t quite explain it.
[195th Floor]
No need to doubt the authenticity of this document.
This was just found in the ruins of a cotton field in Shangjun, now known as Yan’an. (This discovery has just been made public, so it’s not a leak.)
There are almost no records of Jia Xu left, including his tomb, which is not in the Jia family cemetery. This is likely something he forgot to destroy.
If we assume Jia Xu was not a spy, he might have been the teacher of Qiao Lan and Qiao Ting, but not at that time.
[196th Floor]
There’s one more thing in this possibly overlooked box.
[Picture]
You should be able to see it clearly, although the photo is a bit blurry, it’s well-preserved.
[197th Floor] One bite at a time
A panda doll!
I remember seeing this on the horses of His Majesty in early murals.
[198th Floor]
This doll became very common in later generations.
But during Emperor Taizu’s reign, no one dared to make an identical one for fear of offending the Son of Heaven.
There are only two recorded panda dolls, one in Pang Tong’s possession as a monthly exam reward at Leping Academy, and the other on His Majesty’s horse, Zhu Tan.
But here appears a third one.
And the owner of the box is undoubtedly Jia Xu.
Meaning, the last unrecorded one was given to Jia Xu.
[199th Floor] Yanyan’s Light
My heavens!
[200th Floor] Zhaozhao
…I suddenly want to take back what I just said.
[201st Floor] One bite at a time
Shocked, folks.
The time Pang Tong got the doll was in the first year of Jian’an, and Jia Xu’s should be around the same time.
[202nd Floor] Cola without ice
“Traitor’s treatment”
[203rd Floor] Sheyu
This is the treatment of a confidant, right???
[204th Floor] Missing a commemorative coin
Feels… there’s really something here.
[205th Floor] First in line for gossip
Waiting for the experts to continue revealing secrets, us gossipers will stay quiet for now.
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[212th Floor]
It’s well known that Emperor Taizu liked pandas (then called iron-eating beasts).
The meaning of this panda doll is self-evident.
As for why these documents and the doll were left here, we have some guesses.
In the third year of Jian’an, Jia Xu went to Xuzhou to command the north-south confrontation.
Before going to Xuzhou, they first went to Yizhou, making it inconvenient to carry these items. Then, moving between Xuzhou and Qingzhou left him no time to deal with them.
In the first year of Yuanzhao, Jia Xu became the Governor of Qingzhou, busy with the disconnection between Qingzhou, Jizhou, and other regions, and the need to settle accounts with Qingzhou noble families.
In the fourth year of Yuanzhao, the Suizhou War broke out, with Qingzhou providing naval support for the subsequent suppression of the Three Han.
In the first month of the sixth year of Yuanzhao, Gan Ning returned from his sea voyage, bringing new cotton seeds to the Central Plains. Coincidentally, the cotton field development in the Western Regions was completed, shifting cotton cultivation from Shangjun to the Western Regions, with Shangjun’s fields converted to regular farmland.
Jia Xu’s box was probably buried underground at this time, like being buried in an underground tomb, only to be unearthed now.
[213th Floor]
In the Yong book, there’s an evaluation of Jia Xu, saying he was cautious in conduct, had few desires, spoke carefully, and only sought self-preservation.
So, this is likely the only “evidence” Jia Xu left outside of historical records.
[214th Floor] A passerby
The idea of the only piece of evidence actually touches me.
[215th Floor] No hotpot for me
For some reason, it sounds a bit tear-jerking.
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[220th Floor] Missing a commemorative coin
So… Jia Xu might have always been a loyal subordinate of Emperor Taizu, and there was never any betrayal.
[221st Floor] Yanyan’s Light
But if that’s the case, why didn’t Emperor Taizu clear his name?
Carrying the stigma of once surrendering to Dong Zhuo, who would be comfortable with that?
[222nd Floor] First in line for gossip
Not necessarily.
Given his status at the time, no one dared to bring it up.
[223rd Floor] Cute without brains
Having reached the position of Governor of Qingzhou, it’s probably only us who would scold him on forums.
[224th Floor]
On one hand, that’s the reason.
On the other hand, it might just not be appropriate to mention.
The outcome Jia Xu caused in Chang’an was generally good, but it also came with casualties from both sides clashing, plus the subsequent loss of Shanyang Gong and Emperor Taizu supporting Anyi Gong’s ascension.
Also, Dong Zhuo and Liu Biao jointly caused Sun Jian’s death, and it’s hard to say who’s responsible.
Plus, later Sun Ren and Sun Quan were already serving His Majesty…
Rather than exposing Jia Xu as a spy and causing unnecessary trouble, it’s better to let the secret remain a secret.
[225th Floor] Shijiazhuang Zhao Zilong
If that’s the case, if Liu Xie’s disappearance was also orchestrated by Jia Xu, or Sun Jian’s death wasn’t an accident in battle but intentionally done by Jia Xu to eliminate a rival for His Majesty… is that also possible?
Since he was already a spy, it wouldn’t hurt to do a bit more.
[226th Floor] Excavator
Wow, why are you so daring to think like that!
[227th Floor] Shijiazhuang Zhao Zilong
(Pointing fingers) I’ve been watching power struggle dramas recently, couldn’t help but get carried away.
I’m wrong, thinking like that makes both Jia Xu and His Majesty seem quite ruthless.
[228th Floor] Yanyan’s Light
Whether ruthless or not depends on who you ask.
I only know that Emperor Taizu was a savior to the people of that time.
[229th Floor] One bite at a time
With Emperor Taizu’s great achievements as a filter, I find it quite thrilling.
[230th Floor] Sheyu
So, anyone willing to write some speculative theories of that time using this setting? (Eager to see)
[231st Floor] Your big sister is still your big sister
Perfect and flawless heroes are boring, now it’s all about scheming ambitious people.
To me, with the Yellow Turban Rebellion and Dong Zhuo’s chaos at the end of the Han Dynasty, it’s better for our Da Yong Emperor to ascend for the world’s survival.
[232nd Floor] Cute without brains
+1, I also want to see.
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[242nd Floor] OP
Wait, aren’t we supposed to be arguing about who is His Majesty’s most trusted subordinate?
How did the topic suddenly turn to conspiracy theories?
[243rd Floor] Excavator
I suddenly feel that my last post’s topic drift wasn’t strange at all.
[244th Floor]
Alright, let’s get back on track.
Now you know why I say Jia Xu was His Majesty’s most trusted minister.
The local community situation back then was nothing like the fragmented regions we have now, with Liangzhou people especially sticking together because they couldn’t get significant appointments in the central government, not even with great military achievements like Duan Jiong.
In such a situation, His Majesty wasn’t worried at all that Jia Xu would truly defect after falling into Dong Zhuo’s hands, nor that he could use Dong Zhuo and Chang’an’s forces to harm him.
She also believed Jia Xu wouldn’t mind bearing the stigma of defection for centuries to come, and would properly destroy all correspondence.
The only things that accidentally came through history to us are a student assignment and a gift from His Majesty himself.
[245th Floor] Cute without brains
QWQ What a master-subordinate relationship.
[246th Floor] A passerby
Alright, Jia Xu, I respect you as a hero.
[247th Floor] Cola without ice
Blame this damn historical accident, I… I vote for Jia Xu.
[248th Floor] Pirate King Xingba
I was going to nominate Gan Ning, after all, His Majesty gave him such long-distance voyage power, not afraid he’d take people and resources to establish a country on an overseas island.
But now, I vote for Jia Xu.
[249th Floor] Zhaozhao
Zhaoji, you step back, today’s post caught up with the latest excavation results, I’ll vote for Jia Xu first.
[250th Floor] Fengxiao’s hangover cure
I haven’t even mentioned… okay, vote for Jia Xu.
[251st Floor] Dream of holding the sun
I… forget it Cheng Rili, today I’ll stand with Jia Xu.
[252nd Floor] OP
So no one feels sorry for Dong Zhuo and Li Jue? Thinking they got a strategist who could help, but it turned out to be a fatal trap sent by the enemy.
[253rd Floor] A passerby
OP you…
[254th Floor] First in line for gossip
So the OP wanted to see us argue, that’s fine then.
[255th Floor] Missing a commemorative coin
Dong Zhuo: I’m already buried, stop whipping my corpse!
[256th Floor] Cute without brains
Li Jue: My historical records still show me as missing, can we not talk about this mistake of mine!
[257th Floor] Sheyu
Jia Xu: Tricking you is just tricking you, what more is there to say, you’re just not as skilled.
[258th Floor] A passerby
Good, consensus reached.
[259th Floor] OP
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[260th Floor] OP
Fine, you win, I also vote for Jia Xu.
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[299th Floor] OP
No, I still can’t swallow this.
[300th Floor] OP
[Picture] Bought a flight ticket to Yan’an, going to see the latest excavation results.
I must see what tricks Jia Xu, the spy, pulled.
Author’s note:
I see someone found the easter egg from the last chapter.
The year 52 AD is the time Qiao Qiao abdicated, not according to the so-and-so year naming.
The year 1 AD is the founding year of Da Yong, not the birth year of Jesus.
Although forum posts are good for padding word count, I still stuffed a lot of information in.
Next forum post.
[Yesterday received a Victory Coin from a second-hand market, can anyone help take a look?]
See you tomorrow at 9:30 AM.
If a few minutes late, it’s because the forum post needs formatting QWQ